Scraping Hoof

[pdavis]

If your opponent does manage to get you into a full nelson. Is it possible to break the hold using this technique? Especially if they are larger than you? My partner has about 3" and 100 pounds on me and everytime I have tried this once he has locked his hands, all I have managed to do was injure my own neck trying to break his grip. Is this technique intended to be used primarily before the hold is set?

BTW, If I try this hold on my partner, he just stands up, walks across the room to the nearest wall and bangs me into it :( Reminds me of the scene in the Princess Bride.

[Maximus]

Princess Bride was one of my favorite movies! Inigo Montoya was the best!:D

Yes, this technique was designed to defend against the full nelson BEFORE it was set. In fact, ALL defenses against holds, hugs, chokes, or locks are meant to occur before the opponent sets the hold or lock. A properly set hold, hug, choke or lock is difficult (if not sometimes impossible) to escape without injury. You wouldn't block a punch AFTER it has hit you...would you? Of course not! In the same logic, we wouldn't try to defend against a grappling maneuver AFTER the opponent has successfully completed his attack.

American Kenpo examines full nelson attacks in a series of defenses. The particular defensive maneuver you utilize is determined by the point at which the lock is applied. For example,

SCRAPING HOOF--used when the opponent is BEGINNING his attack. His arms have gone under yours. You thrust your arms downward to pin his arms and prevent them from coming around your neck. You conclude by controlling his height zone and finishing with a low-line attack.

REPEATED DEVASTATION--used the the opponent is in the MIDDLE of his attack. His arms have gone under yours and are now moving upward toward your neck. You thrust both of your hands backward to strike into his eyes as well as to occupy the same space that he is intending to place his hands. This "blocks" his effort to set the lock. You conclude by controlling his width zone and finishing with a high-line attack.

TWIRLING SACRIFICE--used the the opponent has set the lock and is forcing you forward. You "sacrifice" some safety in order to escape. You conclude by controlling his height zone and finishing with a low-line attack.

There is another defense which is based upon TWIRLING SACRIFICE that existed in the early days and completed this category of thought. It was called LEAPING MONKEY and could be used when you are picked up off the ground. It concluded with a simultaneous high-line and low-line attack.

-Maximus

[Lance C]

Princess Bride was one of my favorite movies! Inigo Montoya was the best!:D

Yes, this technique was designed to defend against the full nelson BEFORE it was set. In fact, ALL defenses against holds, hugs, chokes, or locks are meant to occur before the opponent sets the hold or lock. A properly set hold, hug, choke or lock is difficult (if not sometimes impossible) to escape without injury. You wouldn't block a punch AFTER it has hit you...would you? Of course not! In the same logic, we wouldn't try to defend against a grappling maneuver AFTER the opponent has successfully completed his attack.

American Kenpo examines full nelson attacks in a series of defenses. The particular defensive maneuver you utilize is determined by the point at which the lock is applied. For example,

SCRAPING HOOF--used when the opponent is BEGINNING his attack. His arms have gone under yours. You thrust your arms downward to pin his arms and prevent them from coming around your neck. You conclude by controlling his height zone and finishing with a low-line attack.

REPEATED DEVASTATION--used the the opponent is in the MIDDLE of his attack. His arms have gone under yours and are now moving upward toward your neck. You thrust both of your hands backward to strike into his eyes as well as to occupy the same space that he is intending to place his hands. This "blocks" his effort to set the lock. You conclude by controlling his width zone and finishing with a high-line attack.

TWIRLING SACRIFICE--used the the opponent has set the lock and is forcing you forward. You "sacrifice" some safety in order to escape. You conclude by controlling his height zone and finishing with a low-line attack.

There is another defense which is based upon TWIRLING SACRIFICE that existed in the early days and completed this category of thought. It was called LEAPING MONKEY and could be used when you are picked up off the ground. It concluded with a simultaneous high-line and low-line attack.

-Maximus

I had a wrestling coach (in the day) who used to take us down with an inside heel hook and a full nelson (on the soft mats) you would land face first (or forehead first) into the mats with him riding you down.

The self defenses in Kenpo are pretty solid, when done with enthusiasm and using every possible bit of effort you can "jerk" you way around your opponent. Think like a bucking bronco trying to get someone off your back. You will probably find that:
1) You less likely get lifted from the floor with a couple of good timed downward jerks.
2) Your opponent gets a bit confused and or looses their grip (or will) to continue the move
3) It is psychologically daunting when a large strong man cannot lift someone off the ground he knows he should be able to lift.

-Lance