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pigram86
02-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Just wanted to know what others on the forum thought of the drills on DVD 2 - the Trainer. I just ordered the package and I am just looking for feedback.

pdavis
02-09-2007, 12:26 PM
Just wanted to know what others on the forum thought of the drills on DVD 2 - the Trainer. I just ordered the package and I am just looking for feedback.I just recently received it and have only had a chance for a cursory review. Over all I thought it was pretty good but need to review it further and try and implement some of the suggestions.

Lance C
02-09-2007, 09:46 PM
I really liked the disk set 1-3. If I remember correctly most of the stuff from the DVD was implemented in Class (for a couple of years now) and it covers some long forgotten Attribute Training that alot of Kenpo schools fail to cover. Some of it is in the Fitness Tests the Elite Fighters use.

It was unbelievable how many higher belts fail to develop, they plateau, yet still advance through memory work. This is good help to defeat that.

I was hoping there would be a volume 4 and so on... Most of the stuff has helped ALOT.

-Lance C

pigram86
02-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Pdavis/Lance


Thanks for your responses. Now i really am anxious to recieve them and incorporate them into my rountine.

Lance C
02-12-2007, 05:13 AM
Pdavis/Lance


Thanks for your responses. Now i really am anxious to recieve them and incorporate them into my rountine.

One thing about the Mr.Lamkins' seminar series and supplemental / professional development materials is that they smack of experience without all of the hype and self worship. We have a "Kenpo Master" that runs most of Kenpo in Ontario, he makes money in the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, soon it will be almost a million / annum, and he sells martial arts business systems, the unfortunate thing when a student brought in some material it was all about "perceived value" and "money for intangeables" to me it said "selling nothing, and getting money" it even implied that students who get good, quit.

Many students of mine over the last couple of years have benenfitted from the information I teach derived from the DVD's. They get somewhere they want to go. Not just shelling out money to have their wheels spin and go nowhere.

One thing I saw on YouTube the other day was a comment posted about a Kenpo demonstration, and that was "If you aren't getting better, why are you paying for it?" From the video it was someone taking lessons for the purpose of a knowledge ego trip, that is the use of technobabble and lack of demonstrable execution.

Xperience
02-12-2007, 06:41 PM
Hi L.C ~
A Kenpo Master should be like the master of any other skill, trade, art, or profession . . . a true master, should continue to improve with age. If not, either he doesn't practice what he preaches, or he has a detrimental approach to training. I've seen this too many times in sport karate (regardless of the amount of contact practiced), and with someone who is heavy into breaking. With sport karate, the joints tend to suffer from years of excessive overextension, and years of heavy breaking can really mess up bone & joint structure. A true Kenpo Master trains in a healthy manner, and insists that his students do the same. Besides, would you rather be able to kick ass (only if necessary, ofcourse) when you're eighty; or would you rather be an old cripple, with dreams of glory days? Sign me up in the kick ass column please.

;) X

Lance C
02-13-2007, 06:25 AM
Hi L.C ~
A Kenpo Master should be like the master of any other skill, trade, art, or profession . . . a true master, should continue to improve with age. If not, either he doesn't practice what he preaches, or he has a detrimental approach to training. I've seen this too many times in sport karate (regardless of the amount of contact practiced), and with someone who is heavy into breaking. With sport karate, the joints tend to suffer from years of excessive overextension, and years of heavy breaking can really mess up bone & joint structure. A true Kenpo Master trains in a healthy manner, and insists that his students do the same. Besides, would you rather be able to kick ass (only if necessary, ofcourse) when you're eighty; or would you rather be an old cripple, with dreams of glory days? Sign me up in the kick ass column please.

;) X

There's a new esoteric question: What is a master?

I looked it up in good 'ole wikipedia and came up with this:

Master (a man having control or authority)

from Barry Gordy's "The Last Dragon" (movie)

"ain't no master here.... ain't no slaves either!"
"we just made the master up to sell more fortune cookies"

The same term in another language also from Wikipedia, which I like better:

Maestro, a skilled, usually non-academic, instructor, as in Dance Master, Music Master, Fencing Master, Drawing Master, etc.

From common word usage, and pretty much what the general public thinks is that a master is someone who learned enough about a subject that people seek them out for lessons and classes.

Personally speaking I manage 4 employees whose job it is to train, coach and motivate +/- 30 fighters. My title is Head Coach / Trainer (can never have enough qualified trainers!) We look at the club as being a service to people interested in human development through the study of martial arts, therefore automatically the athlete is in control or authority of their own self. As coaches we try to educate the athlete to make the best decisions in their training for themselves. Other than maintaining a positive, safe environment, there is little authoritative requirements of the staff.

I feel that "Coach" is a respectable enough title to be sought out for, since my reputation grows as one. This does not mean that I do not train, just that my students do not need to follow in my path. I find them limitless, I try and keep them in that state. The Group grows well. Part of this growth includes asking people like Mr.Lamkin and Mr.Lamkin for help either through the professional development products of the AKLA or by asking questions.

Yeah, I have seen cripples at 20 come out of the TKD club, they force the splits there and knees go pretty quickly. I think we have all have glory days, as long as you are constantly creating new successes no stagnentation occurs. People who constantly talk about what they are doing never face a tired ear, people who talk about maybe doing something, or only what they have done, face many tired ears.


-Lance C

Xperience
02-13-2007, 08:11 PM
Hiya L.C ~
I like your attitude . . . be ever humble, and you'll always be able to get your head through the door. As far as the term Master goes, the only context in which I could ever see it applied, is as one who is recognizably accomplished (even among Shoalin priests). Besides, a truly good leader leads by example, not by rhetoric. Like Ed Parker, I share my art, in order to help people build a knowledge base; to help them to evolve along their own path. I simply supply the tools to help them get to where they need to be, and try to expand their ability to think & do what's necessary. When I talked to Ed Parker in the early 80's, he said he didn't feel like a Master. I could understand that . . . 'that' is a quality more truly recognized by others; as well it should be. One does 'good' to be a Master of one's self, and with a lotta luck, one's own fate. Granted, I do use somewhat traditional appellations in the system I teach; but I teach somewhat traditional arts, albeit in an eclectic manner. Now, the Lamkin brothers have taken a very unique approach to quelling the Master syndrome; by merely utilizing ancient european, rather than asian appellations. Though, I do have to hand it to them, they've done nothing without extensive thought, research, & testing. But then again, we all have 'whatever works (best)' roots, via the Tracy Bro's & Ed Parker, from Wm.K.S.Chow. Fortune Cookie Master says, "Keep your head on your shoulders, and your feet on the ground; and your heart will be true". Just keep on smilin.
;) X

pigram86
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
I received my dvds yesterday. These are awesome. Just by watching disk1, I see why my oldest son, has quit on me before. I had no structure and was basing the class on what I needed instead of what he needs.

Disk 2 has some great drills that I had forgotten about. I will be incorpoating them into my sons and my training.

Disk 3 just blew my mind. Just be wacthing the drills, I saw things that i missed in the 90's. Must be my advanced age or something.

Another awesome product!

Lance C
02-18-2007, 06:43 AM
I received my dvds yesterday. These are awesome. Just by watching disk1, I see why my oldest son, has quit on me before. I had no structure and was basing the class on what I needed instead of what he needs.

Disk 2 has some great drills that I had forgotten about. I will be incorpoating them into my sons and my training.

Disk 3 just blew my mind. Just be wacthing the drills, I saw things that i missed in the 90's. Must be my advanced age or something.

Another awesome product!


From your reaction, Guess it is time to rewatch them ;)

The AKLA material is very progressive and developmental. We didn't know how to teach kicking in class in p&d manner, until we saw the Progressive Kicks of Kenpo. The subject (Hannah) demonstrated well. The kicks sort of build up from one level to the next.

The same with the drills we do in class (from the Instructor series) it is so very suprising how the drills pay off in other areas. Crossing Minds was one that the staff had fun with, but some students reluctantly try it, others are doing it right away, including rooting before punching after a kick.

-Lance C

pigram86
02-18-2007, 03:20 PM
From your reaction, Guess it is time to rewatch them ;)

The AKLA material is very progressive and developmental. We didn't know how to teach kicking in class in p&d manner, until we saw the Progressive Kicks of Kenpo. The subject (Hannah) demonstrated well. The kicks sort of build up from one level to the next.

The same with the drills we do in class (from the Instructor series) it is so very suprising how the drills pay off in other areas. Crossing Minds was one that the staff had fun with, but some students reluctantly try it, others are doing it right away, including rooting before punching after a kick.

-Lance C
Hey Lance

I plan on watching them over and over. You may have picked up what i saw long ago.

All of the materials Kevin and Eric put out are awesome. I purchased the Defender level of EF back in 2003. It is just as good if not better than the LOK. I could've continued that but I like to finish what I start, so I went back to kenpo. It's a personal thing.

Lance C
02-18-2007, 04:43 PM
I was interested in the material too, wanted to rebuild my kenpo too and work on my 3rd Black in kenpo. Having no time to get through my material the last year, means I need to sit down and work on my own stuff. I have been relearning much of the system (having come from a muchly reduced Kenpo system) I wanted to make sure my staff and students were AKLA 100% It has been a couple of years and things are on track, but just proves the quality difference between what is out there, and the time it takes to get quality.

-Lance C