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administrator
02-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Another technique that many Kenpoists ask about is Clawing Panther. Clawing Panther is still taught in the tracy System, but nowhere found in the Parker System - or is it?

After reviewing the Slapping Palms posts, the method of analysis should begin to be opening. What technique(s) in the Parker system maintains the principles taught in Clawing Panther? If you can answer it, then try to specualte why Parker did not include the technique in his last rendition of the Kenpo System.

Kevin Lamkin

warrior-scholar
02-02-2007, 01:42 PM
At first glance one seems to find an affinity with many of the Lance techniques, but I think the type of parrying involved is actually of a different kind. My vote goes to techniques like Leap of Death and Destructive Kneel. The manner of deflection, along with the reverse motion strikes seem to be in line with Clawing Panther. I know so little about Ed Parker that it would be dangerous for me to speculate on why he left it out.

pigram86
02-02-2007, 02:11 PM
Given that I have never studied Tracy's Kenpo, I have no idea how this technique works. I based my answers to the Slapping Palms post from the other posts. Are all thses techniques in the manual?

As far why Mr Parker, may or may not have left it out, could it be it is just a variation or extensions of a root or master technique and he wanted us to tailor our art using the formulation equation to discover it ourselves? I mean we all learn from the ideal phase, which never happens in real life from my expirience, but we are supposed to tailor the art to make it our own. Once we become spontaneous, we just create techniques for the given moment or encounter based off what we learned from the ideal phase. That is why the 'What if' variations are important.

administrator
02-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Todd,

For a visual of the opening of Clawing Panther, go to www.elite-fighters.com (http://www.elite-fighters.com) and look at the animation of 'The Mystery of the Clawing Panther'.

The purpose of this particular forum is regarding the so called 'lost techniques' that is no longer taught in either system. So, our Manual of Lost Techniques gives a written description of these techniques and some of the historical background of them.

Your insight into how the principles remain in other techniques is correct, Todd. It is up to the practitioners to go mining for these principles so that your instinctual responses become finely tuned.

Kevin Lamkin

warrior-scholar
02-02-2007, 04:36 PM
One other comment...The deflection could also be related to a technique like Repeating Mace, but Tracy's has an earlier use of the "apple pick" deflection as well in Arm Hook (Purple Belt).
Just another thought...

pigram86
02-06-2007, 09:55 AM
After looking at the opening, I say that you could continue the ccw motion of your reverse handsword coupled with a push drag to apply a rear choke. I would have to say Sleeper

administrator
02-07-2007, 11:03 AM
Good answers. Post #2 is the closest so far. The main thing to look at is the principles, not necessarily the moves. So, look a bit further with that respect and try to determine if the technique has been taken out of the Parker system, or if it still exists - in principle.

Kevin Lamkin

Tombo
04-13-2009, 12:02 AM
To revive a two year old thread, my guess is going to have to be Destructive Fans although there are some obvious difference it appears that the mechanics and principles are virtually the same.

Although I have to side with Warrior Scholar in liking Destructive Kneel as well, although I think Destructive Fans is much closer.