Slapping Palms

[administrator]

What happened to this technique? At one time, this technique was taught in open group class. Everyone from all belts knew this technique. Although it was taught in 2nd Brown in Tracy's, what happened to it.

This technique is efficient,
Effective,
Easy to do,
Known by many, so it couldn't have simply been forgotten,
It contains elements not found in other techniques in kenpo.

What do you think?

Kevin Lamkin
Administator

[JKDooer]

I learned that one too. I always wondered why it was not in the curriculum.

Any asnwers?

JK

[administrator]

Actually, I posed a trick question.
It is still part of the American Kenpo System.

Here's a hint - blue belt.

Now, who can figure which it is?

Kevin Lamkin
Administrator

[JamesS]

Actually, I posed a trick question.
It is still part of the American Kenpo System.

Here's a hint - blue belt.

Now, who can figure which it is?

Kevin Lamkin
Administrator

Is it an alternate name or early version of crossed twigs?

[administrator]

No, Slapping Palms is not related to Crossed Twigs. In American Kenpo, there is a family of techniques that starts in Purple Belt and has three strongly related techniques in Blue Belt.

I will give a bit more time to guess this one.

Kevin Lamkin

[JamesS]

I really dont have a clue, Im thinking of punching techs, flashing mace, flashing wings, leaping crane.
Am I on the right track?

[warrior-scholar]

Well, I will use my Tracy's background as an excuse for my ignorance on this one...hehe :D

Concerning the beginning of Slapping Palms...
It seems Leaping Crane has the idea of two simultaneous inward strikes. This leads me to speculate about Gathering Clouds and perhaps Gift of Destiny, in which you strike/parry inward with both limbs (3rd technique???).
The opposite idea I had involved reversing the motion to outward parries/strikes/etc. This might include Twist of Fate, Thrusting Wedge, Begging Hands.

Concerning the middle/end of Slapping Palms...
I still include Leaping Crane for obvious reasons. Now, the Pendulum techniques seem similar in the intermediary strikes/kick.

Maybe this will help someone think of a better solution.
W-S
:confused:

[administrator]

I really dont have a clue, Im thinking of punching techs, flashing mace, flashing wings, leaping crane.
Am I on the right track?

Yes,
Leaping Crane is in the same family as Slapping Palms (some call it Slapping Hands),

What you should be most mindful of is the scissoring action of the techniques.

This leads into the question of why were the techniques dropped from the Parker and Tracy Systems? Simply knowing the Family and the methods of Formulating techniques has not been enough to maintain a very valuable method in dealing with a bladed hold-up. This is why keeping a knowledge of all methods of defense is important.

Kevin Lamkin

[pigram86]

Yes,
Leaping Crane is in the same family as Slapping Palms (some call it Slapping Hands),

What you should be most mindful of is the scissoring action of the techniques.

This leads into the question of why were the techniques dropped from the Parker and Tracy Systems? Simply knowing the Family and the methods of Formulating techniques has not been enough to maintain a very valuable method in dealing with a bladed hold-up. This is why keeping a knowledge of all methods of defense is important.

Kevin Lamkin
I don't know the Slapping palms technique, but I would like to give this a shot. If it is in the same family as Leaping Crane, which is punching and the hint is blue belt, how about Circling the Horizon. i only say that since they both move to the outside. You are moving outside in Leaping crane, left one leg leap into crane stance and you redirect the opponent in Circling the Horizon, by stepping forward and delivering left inward parry. Am I close or way off base?

[administrator]

Yes, Circling the Horizon is certainly related. An earlier post mentioned Gathering Clouds. Now to seal the deal, where does this lead to the closest related technique (which is in Green Belt in the 24 technique system)?

Kevin Lamkin

[pigram86]

Yes, Circling the Horizon is certainly related. An earlier post mentioned Gathering Clouds. Now to seal the deal, where does this lead to the closest related technique (which is in Green Belt in the 24 technique system)?

Kevin Lamkin
Right of the top of my head, I would say Circles of Protection. I will have to research this a little more. i haven't finished all of the assignments in the Family grouping download yet.

[warrior-scholar]

Taming the Mace

[Lance C]

Yes,
Leaping Crane is in the same family as Slapping Palms (some call it Slapping Hands),

What you should be most mindful of is the scissoring action of the techniques.

This leads into the question of why were the techniques dropped from the Parker and Tracy Systems? Simply knowing the Family and the methods of Formulating techniques has not been enough to maintain a very valuable method in dealing with a bladed hold-up. This is why keeping a knowledge of all methods of defense is important.

Kevin Lamkin

The Knife Attack may be Clipping the Lance from Form 6, and the Green Belt Technique related to it be Clipping the Storm?

This would be the same direction of movement, only scissoring above the action, fits in with the blade defense, and that it is not obvious since thrusting club and knife attacks are related to similar family of punches.

(Thanks Mr.Lamkin for not making everything relate to 5 swords, as is so common in other internet discussion groups)

[administrator]

Ryan is correct with Taming the Mace being the closest relation to Slapping Hands (Palms).

I am glad that this discussion has finally sparked some interest. Many times students wonder where all of the techniques have gone in the parker System. By studying the Family groupings ans related moves, you will have a greater understanding of the Kenpo system and why Ed Parker reduced the number of techniques per belt. The material is there, but you have to mining to have a deeper understanding.

I will post the next quest on a seperate thread.

Kevin Lamkin

[warrior-scholar]

Thank you for continuing to move us towards a deeper understanding of the techniques. At times I miss the simpler connections, assuming something deep or esoteric must be involved. One can use the term "over-analyze" to describe what is actually improper analysis.